Discussion in beginnersfaq started by universeofthemind8, sep, 2016. Kemper since those are the two ive owned and used extensively. Helix does do some things that the axe fx cannot do yet. Axe change the official site for fractal audio presets. Good on line 6, though, showing the bassists some love.
From what ive heard, the kemper is easier to dial and is more. The main features of the fractal audio axe fx, line 6 helix, kemper. Over the last few years, digital modelling amps have become so advanced that they can now convincingly match the sound of real tube amps, effects and cabinets. In any case, hardware is a different ball game to software and only the helix lt of the two units featured here really seems to have effortlessly balanced the two halves of the equation. If fractal doesnt meet the new challenges of helix, theyll almost be forcing bassists to consider other options for ampcab sims. Line 6 helix patch mf luke based on soldano slo100 steve lukather style impro.
Not only that, but it has both a global eq and global cabinet modeling. The tools might be different, but this change in attitude means not only that use of modelling will become more common, but that manufacturers will seek to deliver more options to consumers. Our vetta ii amplifier includes a digital connection for the variax that lets you store settings for both your amp and your guitar in the vetta ii so that when you call up a vetta channel memory your amp and guitar can change sounds together. After almost one year my patches were still not finished and i felt like i am unable to. Line 6 helix gearslutz gearslutz pro audio community. Dunno, i might be crazy would be interested in your thoughts. We sat down with both units, tested them thoroughly, then took them home and played with each one for about a month to figure out which one is the better buy.
I have had line 6 products since 2001, i have had my axe fx ii since late 2011 so i. I decided after some comments to give it another couple of days. I have had line 6 products since 2001, i have had my axe fx ii since late 2011 so i think i can speak on the products. Line 6 helix vs fractal audio axe fx ii high gain amps with same. These making editing patches really easy and the axeedit software is definitely better than the one line6 offers. To me the helix sounds like its that tool that you take with you to a gig that you dont feel like bringing your entire rig to. Usually i build my presets during night, so most of the time i find myself using headphones, so as far as i put a stereo block at the end of the chain, the sound reaching my ears is wonderful, deep, with no harshness or noises. Note attack is nuanced, and responsiveness and character vary from model to model. Download presets and cabs, or upload your own creations. The difference between the line 6 helix hx stomp and the hx multi effects is that the stomp has got amp and cab modelling which means you plug it directly into an interface or pa system and get great guitar amp sounds. The axe fx is really worth a look also, they have a nice software editor for your to edit patches even the oldest axe fx, the first ones, sound very good and very similar to the newer ones imho.
Boss gt vs line 6 helix vs fractal ax8 shoot out by. Using helix xlr digital out to power cab plus i was so worried it would be so complicated it really isnt, thanks too youtube, lots of line 6 support and the line 6 community is great, and i had been researching the helix for about 2 yrs. Note this is not to bash helix or line 6, i have been line 6 customer for many many years. Mar 09, 2017 line 6 helix, fractal fx8 or ax8 which one do you prefer. Warning about downloaded tones, patches and presets. Fractal audio systems ax8 and line 6 helix a model. I also already own 2 of the line 6 stage source l2t speakers, so again the upgrade to helix just made sense. When they released it originally, they didnt have a computer app to set up patches, supposedly because it was so easy to use from the actual unit that it was completely unnecessary. I can dial in patches with the helix screen pretty easily. With the iii, axe fx accepted line 6 s challenge, creating their most streamlined ui yet and marrying it to their best simulations and effects. Here i compare the big 3 guitar units and will hopefully help you decide which one will be best for you. In this article, we look at 4 of the main candidates available the fractal axe fx, line 6 helix, kemper profiler and.
Join the facebook helix users group too loads of advice. I would say that they codeveloped firehawk and helix, since helix was a complete groundup redesign of all aspects the aptlynamed hxmodel incarnation. Record to your mac, pc or ios device with extremely low latency. While the axe fx redefined the professional modeler, the line 6 helix revolutionized the user interface players could expect from a highend modeling unit. Just dont sale amps an fx s if this is updated like it should be and fractal doesnt put in a touch screen with a operating system easy as the helix. Jun 08, 2012 line 6 pro hd vs axe fx ii stick for me. I would never bash the axe ii as i recognize that it is indeed pretty awesome. The differences are subtle but worth knowing and you choose the one that best suits your rig or your needs whether youre a professional or amateur player. My honest experience with line 6 gear can be summed up fairly simply. The new ones did add new features and such but the core dist algorith for the 5150 which is what most high gain folks use has not changed much. Havent heard the boss or vox up close, but i consider these new line 6 verbs the best ive heard yet.
Ive only been able to try axefx 2 and helix native side by side and while the axefx sounds just a little bit better, the difference is not night and day and i would be happy with either. Fractal audio axefx iii vs line 6 helix comparison and. However, setting up tones patches initially can take a bit of time. Axefx 2 vs helix lt dilemma over fractal audio systems forum.
Includes patches based on the prs archon and line 6 litigator dumble style amps, and a dualamp patch with both. Our mutual has tried both and settled on the kemper with native for. The axeedit software for your computer on the other hand is really good and intuitive to use. I recycled the dry tracks from the amplitube officially licensed amp models vs axe fx ii video. But if i put a mono block and make the whole path mono, it starts to sound awful, and not clean and smooth anymore. Given its superior sound, extensive number of available models, and strategically small footprint, this unit provides a fantastic value for anyone looking to get into the axe fx family, assuming you can live without a headphone output. Ive played the axefx series since the axefx standard and now use an axefx 2 mk i. I agree on this, i come from line 6 hd500x, helix native, helix floor, now to axe fx ii mark 2. If the relatively grainy, lodef modeling of older line 6 products disappointed you, its time for a fresh listen. Hosanna hillsong united line 6 helix patch worship. Hook up external effects, speakers and other gear using an array of essential connections. Here are a few bullet points to consider, just off the top of my head.
When i first bought the helix rack i was a bit disappointed with the default patches provided by line 6 but then i found your youtube channel and all the amazing sounds that are possible with the helix. Helix hosts a more powerful processor than previous line 6 products, providing tactile, threedimensional tones. This was done using axefx 2 as the audio interface so the only real difference is the modeling and a bit of additional latency using the vst. The reason i ask this recently i was playing listening to helix while another person was playing axe fx ii. This compares the helix with the axe fx2 and my 5150iii 50watter. Line 6 helix, fractal fx8 or ax8 which one do you prefer. I was not new to programming presets so i jumped right into it. I currently own a helix floor and axe fx ii, and for obvious reasons controlling everything through the helix is a lot easier. Fractal audio ax8, line 6 helix floor, and headrush. The helix hx fx will be 100 times more simple to program than the fx8. Explore the various tonal possibilities of helix floor, lt and native with custom choptones irs or the great tone matching from the best amplifiers.
In this video we compare the line 6 helix and the fractal audio axefx iii. However, that may be because you cant seem to find any axe units in the uk to trial. However, both are excellent solutions that are way better than something like the mid market pod hd500 series. In this article, we look at 4 of the main candidates available the fractal axe fx, line 6 helix, kemper profiler and atomic amplifire. Jeez, even the budgetminded zoom has stepped things up with the b3n offering a b7k emulation, a trace elliot model, and urei 1176demeter compressors. While company reps are not necessarily as accessible or as patient.
Get our free ac30 patches this is what we used in this demo here. Our pick for the top multieffects pedal is the line 6 hx effects, a cracking unit thats small but mighty. Feb 03, 2016 the new helix is about the price of the used axe fx. Are you trying to decide between buying a fractal audio ax8 and a line 6 helix. How do you like it compared to axe fx 2, fx8just comparing fx and kemper. I like the helix due to dual dsp chips and multiple amps per patch. So patches are not as flexible, but being able to switch between them quickly is a real benefit. The reverb and delay effects in the two units are different specifically the.
Nab one of the best multieffects pedals and you can ditch your pedalboard and multiple pedals to enjoy a more streamlined setup. Line 6 firehawk fx guitar multieffects musicians friend. All axe fx models and the helix have a short dropout when switching presets. Specifically dialed in for worship music, and designed to be used in either stomp or snapshot mode. To start viewing posts, click the forum link in the menu bar above. Im pretty new to this type of technology so forgive my ignorance haha. Thats my understanding of the product, but please correct me if im wrong. I had an axe fx ii and it was a fantastic piece of gear. Ive never seen a company support their products the way line 6. As an owner of both a helix and an axe fx ii i have to say that at this point the.
The main difference in my older axefx 2 is that it has less preset and ir memory, which is a total nonissue for me as i can still put in 100 user irs and have 383 presets. Discussion axe fx 2 vs fractal fx8 vs kemper vs bias amp. Sep 25, 2017 in some ways, this all started with the line 6 pod, and so it seems appropriate that line 6 is attempting to reclaim its seat at the big boys table. Im a longtime kemper user, and a former axefx2 and fx8 owner. Its about as fair as we could make it since the line 6 guy dialled in the line 6 and the fractal guy dialled in the fractal, so no scope for bias sabotagelack of understanding on a unit as was raised in another thread regarding comparisons. I seen that line 6 sales artist patches for hd500x and that wouldnt bother me on the helix. I had owned an axe fx in the past and i honestly think this is way. The interface on the helix is universally praised but for me, i prefer the sound of the fractal. The official source for presets and cabs for your axefx. Variax is the uniquely flexibile guitar from line 6. The axe fx ii is powered by a pair of analog devices tigersharc dsps some. Helix mono vs stereo sound quality you can browse forums as a guest but you have to register before you can post. Apr 25, 2016 helix hosts a more powerful processor than previous line 6 products, providing tactile, threedimensional tones. Wow just got helixsound study vs fractal helix line 6 community.
Kemper is the only one with seamless preset switching. Discussion axe fx 2 vs fractal fx8 vs kemper vs bias amp vs. With all due respect to line 6, though, the hd500 is the first amp modeler ive truly enjoyed playing, and the first to suck me down the rabbit hole of transcendent playing, at that. I have to start by saying, respectfully, that the assertion that a helix is nothing more than a pod xt with a slick interface couldnt be more wrong. Actually id say maybe even used 11 rack but im biased ive not played the helix but from what i hear on the web the problem is still the distortion algorithms. Axe fx vs helix vs kemper vs amplifire modelling amps. I know that i can get a good or bad patch on both so i really not talking about the patches. Fractal audio axe fx iii vs line 6 helix comparison and shootout taylor danley. And the thing that makes it quite obvious for me is the the axe fx had no feel and hearable latency, otherwise i maybe havent noticed it at all because, like i said teh helix and the kemper were very similar. Click here to read about the differences between the line 6 helix, line 6 helix lt and the hx multieffects unit. Line 6 helix vs fractal axefx iii how do they compare using the. Line 6 helixfx vs fractal fx8 page 5 the gear page.
Its so intuitive you already know how to use it and it will let you integrate and control an entire rig of internal and external gear. And when youre ready to hit the road, firehawk fx delivers the bulletproof build quality that makes line 6 multieffects the top choice for professional touring guitarists. At home i tend to use axeedit for any tweaks i want to do to my patches. Im gigging helix friday with the same butter presets with scenes ive been. To me the line6 helix hardware ui is exactly how i would want the axefx front panel to be done. I do not have this problem with my gt10 high gain patches. Line 6 helix vs fractal axe fx 2 vs evh 5150iii amps. The line 6 helix hx stomp is the smallest in the range is incredibly powerful for what it is.
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